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Deaths As Virus Resurges, GOP Suddenly Embraces Covid Vaccine; DOJ Launches New Deaths Initiative to Curb Surging Gun Violence; Cases Rising Among Unvaccinated in Hot Spots Across U.S.; PDeaths arents Concerned About Schools Reopening Without Mask Mandates. Aired 3:30-4p ET

Aired July 22, 2021 – 15:30   ET

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VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN HOST: New CNN reporting out nowadays, almost half of of House Republicans nonetheless will not say publicly if they may be vaccinated. By CNN’s be counted, ninety seven GOP lawmakers might not percentage their popularity. Some say that they do not have a responsibility to model behavior to their materials.

Now we recognise that some Congressional Republicans are doing an about face and publicly encouraging vaccines. Some of them held a information convention to provide an explanation for why they’re vaccinated, and Minority Whip Steve Scalise is one in every of them.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, query for Rep. Scalise, Deaths you were lately vaccinated. You got Deaths your first dose this weekend. Why did you wait goodbye? And have all of the relaxation of you been vaccinated as properly?

REP. STEVE SCALISE (R-LA): First of all, I had completed the antibody test months in the past and examined nice for the antibodies. And so absolutely that offers you protection. But with the delta variant, I felt I wanted that more stage of protection. And ultimately, if anyone in America, I could encourage people to get the vaccine. I have excessive self belief in it. I were given it myself.

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ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN HOST: With us now, we have “Washington Post” columnist Max Boot and Carl Cameron. He’s the former chief political correspondent at Fox News and the cofounder of Front Page Live. Great to peer both of you. Gentlemen, Carl, I want first of all you.

And earlier than we get to what’s occurring on Capitol Hill, I simply Deaths need to get your take on what is happening at Fox. Because Sean Hannity stated some thing on Monday night that got all of our interest. After he have been skeptical of COVID, he’d referred to as it a hoax months ago, on Monday night time he gave what sounded like an enthusiastic endorsement of the vaccinations. So concentrate to this.

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SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: Please take COVID Deaths critically. I can’t say it sufficient. Enough humans have died. We don’t need any extra deaths. Research like crazy. Talk in your health practitioner.

I agree with inside the science. I trust in the technological know-how of vaccination.

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CAMEROTA: Carl, that is completely one-of-a-kind than the way — the tact the first took with COVID. And so, what do you believe you studied is going on?

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What modified this week that changed the mindset of some of the Fox hosts?

CARL CAMERON, CO-FOUNDER, FRONT PAGE LIVE: I think the records of the spikes which can be developing due to the delta variant and the fact that there may be the actual opportunity of breakthrough infections for the ones who have already been vaccinated. We’ve heard of this inside the last week that each the Speaker of the House’s workplace, someone there has had a breakthrough contamination and at the White House.

So, I assume they’re figuring out that it is time sort of get at the proper facet of the technology as a substitute of getting been on the side of propaganda that places their components, their families and the general population vulnerable to loss of life.

CAMEROTA: I suggest glaringly now not all of the hosts sense that way. Tucker Carlson has now not gotten on board with anything this new mindset is that we hear from some of the hosts approximately the vaccinations. And so, do you observed in component they just did the mathematics and that they realized that a number of the human beings most at danger are their own viewers in some of the reddest states are also the least vaccinated?

CAMERON: I think it is a little little bit of that. I additionally assume that they recognize that worldwide individuals who get vaccinated are higher off. And finally their materials, their followers, whether it’s social media, cable television, all of it, that it’s just honestly incorrect and that the time has come to get vaccines. I assume that they recognize that it’s horrific politics to put your electorate in jeopardy. And that’s what they’ve accomplished. And specially with the conservative media on cable, and that’s Fox, the One America Network and Newsmax and such things as that, however additionally on social media.

And the problem with all of this is we have loose speech, and it would not absolutely encompass lying. It’s a cliche, but we are saying you can’t scream fire in a crowded film house because that’s worrying the peace. And that’s a misdemeanor and you could get arrested for it.

BLACKWELL: So, Max, you know, it is long past time for the fact on vaccines even though we’re seeing this about face from Fox hosts, we are seeing it from Congressional Republicans. Is it too overdue? I mean has all this congealed for conservatives who’re anti-vax.

CAMERON: Well, I suppose it’s —

BLACKWELL: Let’s supply it to Max. MAX BOOT, COLUMNIST, THE WASHINGTON POST: I suppose it’s too overdue to influence a whole lot of conservatives to take the vaccine. You’re actually seeing anti-vaccine sentiment is growing at the proper in spite of the proof displaying that over ninety nine percent of COVID deaths are from unvaccinated people. Despite that there is a lot of disinformation at the right. For instance, there was a brand new ballotthat came out that confirmed about a 3rd of all Republicans suppose that vaccines are getting used to implant microchips in human beings. I mean it truly is just crazy.

But this kind of insanity is regrettably being fed via Fox regardless of what Sean Hannity stated, you’ve got Tucker Carlson, Laura Ingraham and have other hosts. You have primary Republican leaders in Congress who’re all feeding this anti-vaccine disinformation.

And it is why what I argued inside the “Washington Post” this week is stop pleading with the right and begin mandating vaccines for individuals who need to fly, who need to visit shops, who need to visit eating places, who need to go to indoor spaces. If you want to just stay at home and be unvaccinated, that’s cool, it truly is on you. But you do not have a proper to endanger other human beings via going out in public unvaccinated. The danger right now’s simply too high. We want to be the usage of vaccine passports which Republicans preserve complaining approximately but which we’re now not truly making use of to the quantity that we need to be.

BLACKWELL: But Max, they’re doing extra than complaining about them, the Republican governors are signing executive orders that are banning

vaccine passports. You recognise that maximum Republican governors are not going to require a vaccine to get right into a eating place or movie theater. So how is that a attainable plan transferring ahead to require them?

BOOT: Well, I assume it’s going to nonetheless make a difference if President Biden comes out in want of vaccine passports for starters. Companies can mandate that proper now even in red states. Wherever they are they could mandate that in case you want to save of their shop, in case you want to visit their office, you have to be vaccinated.

Also, President Biden and the FAA can order all airlines to call for evidence of vaccination or a negative COVID take a look at earlier than allowing every body to fly. Even in red states humans want to get on airplanes, they need to go places. So, I suppose there may be a lot that may be carried out and I’m just perplexed via why the Biden management isn’t getting at the back of vaccine passports which is some thing that different international locations, France and other countries in Europe are going proper now and they may be overtaking us in the percentage of folks that are vaccinated.

CAMEROTA: I think they’ve been looking to use the carrot rather than the stick. But we will see if that is going to paintings as the delta variation rages.

Gentlemen, great to see you, Max Boot, Carl Cameron, thank you each for the insight.

BLACKWELL: Thank you, gents.

So, Attorney General Merrick Garland, he’s on his way to Chicago to promote the Justice Department’s new anti-gun trafficking initiative. We’re going to take you there live.

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CAMEROTA: Attorney General Merrick Garland is on his manner to Chicago to push the Justice Department’s new anti-gun trafficking initiative. The Biden management is dealing with growing strain to cope with rising crime charges national.

BLACKWELL: CNN’s Omar Jimenez is in Chicago, one of the five cities the initiative will attention on. Omar, what do you know approximately the A.G.’s plan?

OMAR JIMENEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, Victor and Alisyn, that is a plan to disrupt gun trafficking networks. So basically, we are going past the ones which can be pulling the triggers of those guns and looking to get to the assets of wherein they are getting them in the first area.

So, as you referred to that is going to target five cities in particular, it is Chicago, New York, Los Angeles, Washington, D.C. and San Francisco. All cities that have visible big rises in violence compared to pre-pandemic stages. And all recognised corridors in keeping with the Department of Justice for unlawful gun trafficking, and that’s exactly what this initiative is aiming to disrupt.

As I referred to, the overall purpose, but, is to higher coordinate federal, country and neighborhood law enforcement corporations. Now right here in Chicago in conversations I’ve had with the mayor, she instructed me that those multijurisdictional strike forces are exactly what she’s requested for from President Biden and what she’s heard other mayors have requested for as nicely.

Ahead of his visit, Attorney General Merrick Garland has said that plenty of instances in these conditions, in these shootings, the guns located come from hundreds or even over one thousand miles away. And so that is the dynamic they may be seeking to target on this. And when you examine the stakes of direction the numbers had been growing on account that 2019, as I cited, but specifically right here in Chicago despite some improvements homicide remains up, compares 48 percent in comparison to pre- pandemic levels. And simply final night time we had three separate mass shootings. So, the stakes are excessive with numerous paintings to be completed.

BLACKWELL: Absolutely, Omar Jimenez for us there in Chicago. Thank you, Omar.

CAMEROTA: So, college is starting in just weeks in some states. And many dad and mom are going through a hard preference. And it truly is whether or not to ship their kids returned to highschool in places that are not mandating mask and wherein youngsters can not be vaccinated yet. What do you do?

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[15:forty five:00] CAMEROTA: Schools are scrambling to come up with COVID safety protocols as they prepare to reopen. Today the Atlanta Public School District just announced it’s going to require all college students and personnel to wear masks.

BLACKWELL: Now we recognise a few states have banned mask mandates, and dad and mom throughout the united states of america don’t know if it’s safe to send their children into school rooms. Kami Galvani is one of those mother and father, she was equipped to ship her three kids again to high school in Phoenix, but now she’s reconsidering due to the fact there’s no mask mandate in Arizona.

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Kami, thank you for being with us. Not handiest is there no mask mandate, however the governor signed a law that bans masks mandates for faculties. You’ve got a fourth grader quickly to be and soon-to-be twin sons going to the primary grade. How are you feeling approximately that?

KAMI GALVANI, MOTHER OF THREE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CHILDREN: Very worried and disillusioned.

CAMEROTA: So, what’s making you worried? I suggest are mask optional at your school? Could you send your children to school masked even if the opposite kids aren’t?

GALVANI: Definitely, sure, mask are optionally available, so, I imply, I guess it truly is one fantastic thing. There is not a ban on mask, however, you know, based on what I know approximately people in the community I’m quite nervous that my kids will be within the minority inside the school that they’re going to be attending. And so, you realize,what’s certainly disappointing is that, you recognize, we saved our children home from college and did on-line education all final 12 months and I’ve watched the numbers cautiously and watched what was going on in the colleges.

And, you realize, the colleges did a pretty desirable process of putting safety measures into vicinity and mask have been a huge part of that, and we had been virtually comforted to see that that seemed to work, so we have been truely — we have been set. We have been all geared up to move again to highschool, the children have been excited. And then the masks went away. And, you know, from what I apprehend that become — it’s the largest reason that colleges did not have outbreaks, and now — and now they are gone. And so, you know, I’m just anxious, that you recognise, we worked so difficult to maintain our youngsters secure all final 12 months and now we are faced with any other difficult preference, and, you recognize, frankly I even have — I have selection fatigue, you understand.

BLACKWELL: Yes.

GALVANI: Yes. It’s arduous.

BLACKWELL: Yes, I understand that you can send your kids to school with masks however of path, what we understand mostly approximately the mask that it maintains a person who has the virus from spreading it, so it’s the alternative kid doubtlessly with it that need to wear the masks. So, what is the plan from the school to shield your kids if vaccines aren’t required and your children aren’t even antique sufficient to get a vaccine and there’s no mask mandate, what’s the plan?

GALVANI: I suppose there isn’t always one. I imply, I suppose they’re going to do hand washing which, you know, we realize is a bit of hygiene theater at this point, however, you realize, there may be not anything they could do. I mean, in our faculty district there are 25 to 30 youngsters in a room so six ft of distance it’s not an option, , and no mask mandate.

I’m positive there might not be a vaccine requirement and so I do not assume that they are going to do anything. I assume the governor has determined that all of this is a personal desire and, , I recognise that plenty of dad and mom are going to mention, outstanding, I’m going to have my child no longer put on a mask. And my largest issue is that mother and father who fall into that camp are the equal parents who themselves don’t want to get a vaccine and so, , they’re going to be exposed and they can divulge their kids who can then come to high school and reveal everybody else.

And so, sure, I can ship my youngsters to high school masked but as you cited, you understand, that does a higher task of shielding other people in preference to the masks-wearer, and so, yes, it’s a actually difficult preference.

CAMEROTA: It is a really hard preference because we also understand the studies that youngsters have felt isolated who have been home this beyond yr and it has taken a mental fitness toll on them, and so I’m positive which you’re, you know, thinking about all of that, too. We best have a few seconds left.

GALVANI: Sure.

CAMEROTA: But have you made a decision that it is on stability it’s safer to have them at domestic?

GALVANI: We have now not determined. We nonetheless haven’t decided. School Deaths starts inweeks.

CAMEROTA: Wow. Well, Kami, we feel for you. We sense for you, and I’m no longer sure there’s a right solution right here or a playbook to comply with however we are taking into account you, and thanks for sharing your own family’s dilemma shifting forward with us. You’re not by myself.

GALVANI: Thank you.

CAMEROTA: There are quite a few families on your boat. So, Kami Galvani, we genuinely admire some time.

BLACKWELL: Thank you, Kami.

So, the CDC director warns that the U.S. is at some other pivotal point within the coronavirus pandemic. The modern from the new spots across the united states of america. We have that for you subsequent.

CAMEROTA: But, first, a quick programming observe. Be sure to catch the all new “JERUSALEM, CITY OF FAITH AND FURY.” Learn how the city’s human beings pay the ultimate fee while three empires collide. That’s Sunday night at 10:00 p.m. jap simplest on CNN.

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BLACKWELL: All right. So, you could upload quick shorts now and cardboard beds to the listing of Olympic controversies.

CAMEROTA: Listen to this, Welsh sprinter and double Paralympic international champion Olivia Breen was wearing — and can you notice them right here — competition briefs at an occasion remaining weekend while a lady professional stated her briefs had been, quote, too short and beside the point.

BLACKWELL: Meantime Norway’s seaside handball team became fined after its women’s crew wore shorts as opposed to bikini bottoms at a championship in shape in Bulgaria.

CAMEROTA: OK, so which one is it, so one were given in hassle for wearing bikini bottoms and now not shorts and the others got in trouble for sporting shorts and now not bikini bottoms.

BLACKWELL: Keep the primary factor the principle thing. We’re right here to play volleyball and what is the other sport?

CAMEROTA: I don’t know, I’ve absolutely forgotten. What turned into the long leap?

BLACKWELL: Let’s cognizance, handball. Yes.

CAMEROTA: Women’s handball and the lengthy soar.

BLACKWELL: I don’t care if you wear sweatpants and Birkenstocks, simply play.

CAMEROTA: Well, form of, I imply I feel if you have bodies like theirs, the much less garments the better.

BLACKWELL: Yes.

CAMEROTA: That’s my feeling.

BLACKWELL: All right.

CAMEROTA: OK, then there are the beds for the Olympic athletes. They are product of cardboard. 2016 U.S. Olympic Medalist Paul Chelimo published his principle.

This as aimed toward averting intimacy amongst athletes.

Social media went berserk.

BLACKWELL: So, this is what I love approximately once I became studying this, the concept — and reading this from our reporting — that the beds with cardboard frames might be for anti-sex purposes and could collapse beneath the weight of more become fast debunked by way of an athlete. I flipped like, how did they do it? She jumped at the bed.

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CAMEROTA: She become jumping at the bed. I see in which you thoughts went, Victor.

BLACKWELL:Sorry, men. “The Lead’ with Pamela Brown, who is in for Jake Tapper, starts offevolved proper now.

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